They are NOT going to wind down Operation Grange, Portuguese and British police sources tell Daily Mirror [2 Sep 2015]

British cops say Madeleine McCann investigation "still live" despite calls for it to be wound down


20:10, 2 SEPTEMBER 2015 UPDATED 20:23, 2 SEPTEMBER 2015
BY GERARD COUZENS

Sources reveal police are still determined despite the case costing UK taxpayers £11 million

The British investigation into missing Madeleine McCann is still "live" and is not about to be wound down, sources have revealed.

The news comes after ex-Metropolitan Police officer John O'Connor yesterday questioned whether the hunt for the missing child was a good use of resources.

It has been claimed the Scotland Yard operation has already cost the taxpayer £11 million but there have not yet been any arrests.

But well-placed sources in Portugal insisted there was no evidence to suggest Operation Grange was going to be shelved in the short or medium term.

And they said they were expecting to receive a new international letter of request shortly from UK authorities - the second since DCI Nicola Wall took over from previous Operation Grange boss Andy Redwood at the end of last year but the first she will have been involved in preparing.

The regular meetings DCI Redwood held with his Portuguese counterparts in the Algarve city of Faro have been put on hold since the takeover.

Her successor is understood to have asked police in Portugal to put on hold some of the work they were undertaking while she reviewed outstanding requests and the way she wanted to progress in the future.

Responding to grumbles about the cost of Scotland Yard’s probe and fresh claims it should be wound down, the Portuguese source insisted: “Nothing is going to be shelved.

“Co-operation right now between the British and the Portuguese police is at a moment of great synchronisation.”

Portugal’s Attorney General’s Office, which in May confirmed it had so far received five British requests for international cooperation on the Madeleine McCann case including one in January 2015, did not respond to emails today.

But insiders said they were expecting to receive a new request shortly.

The Scotland Yard inquiry is running separately to a Portuguese probe into Madeleine’s May 3 2007 disappearance...


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-cops-say-madeleine-mccann-6370080

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-ready-continue-6370581

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Someone is more than happy that the inquiry is to continue:

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C Hanson
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Very good news, the Met police inquiry into Maddy's disappearance is to continue, despite criticism from some quarters.

Fund now stands at £38105

Tony Bennett wrote:British cops say Madeleine McCann investigation "still live" despite calls for it to be wound down


20:10, 2 SEPTEMBER 2015 UPDATED 20:23, 2 SEPTEMBER 2015
BY GERARD COUZENS

Sources reveal police are still determined despite the case costing UK taxpayers £11 million

The British investigation into missing Madeleine McCann is still "live" and is not about to be wound down, sources have revealed.

The news comes after ex-Metropolitan Police officer John O'Connor yesterday questioned whether the hunt for the missing child was a good use of resources.

It has been claimed the Scotland Yard operation has already cost the taxpayer £11 million but there have not yet been any arrests.

But well-placed sources in Portugal insisted there was no evidence to suggest Operation Grange was going to be shelved in the short or medium term.

And they said they were expecting to receive a new international letter of request shortly from UK authorities - the second since DCI Nicola Wall took over from previous Operation Grange boss Andy Redwood at the end of last year but the first she will have been involved in preparing.

The regular meetings DCI Redwood held with his Portuguese counterparts in the Algarve city of Faro have been put on hold since the takeover.

Her successor is understood to have asked police in Portugal to put on hold some of the work they were undertaking while she reviewed outstanding requests and the way she wanted to progress in the future.

Responding to grumbles about the cost of Scotland Yard’s probe and fresh claims it should be wound down, the Portuguese source insisted: “Nothing is going to be shelved.

“Co-operation right now between the British and the Portuguese police is at a moment of great synchronisation.”

Portugal’s Attorney General’s Office, which in May confirmed it had so far received five British requests for international cooperation on the Madeleine McCann case including one in January 2015, did not respond to emails today.

But insiders said they were expecting to receive a new request shortly.

The Scotland Yard inquiry is running separately to a Portuguese probe into Madeleine’s May 3 2007 disappearance...


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-cops-say-madeleine-mccann-6370080

Didn't think for one moment the Met Office 'investigation' is to be wound-up at present - certainly not on the recommendation of some ex-flying squaddie.  Who's leading the ongoing very live Operation Grange investigation - DCI Nicola 'we solve cases so quickly nobody gets involved' Wall?

Intriguing to know however, why this issue has hit the press - again!

sammyc wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-ready-continue-6370581

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A re-hash of old news. 

Was the last time when Kate McCann said she has £1 million in reserve to continue the search when the Operation Grange investigation comes to an end?  Can't quite remember.

Verdi wrote:

sammyc wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-ready-continue-6370581

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A re-hash of old news. 

Was the last time when Kate McCann said she has £1 million in reserve to continue the search when the Operation Grange investigation comes to an end?  Can't quite remember.

Maybe it is a re-hash but it has been updated twice today in less than an hour and still states that Kate and Gerry have moved donated  money from the Fund to a special account to continue a search when the Police stop searching (as if they do!). Put that with the mass media reporting of how the McCanns won mega bucks from Dr Amaral and then more MSM readers will be waking up and thinking for themselves.

sammyc wrote:

Verdi wrote:

sammyc wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-ready-continue-6370581

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A re-hash of old news. 

Was the last time when Kate McCann said she has £1 million in reserve to continue the search when the Operation Grange investigation comes to an end?  Can't quite remember.

Maybe it is a re-hash but it has been updated twice today in less than an hour and still states that Kate and Gerry have moved donated  money from the Fund to a special account to continue a search when the Police stop searching (as if they do!). Put that with the mass media reporting of how the McCanns won mega bucks from Dr Amaral and then more MSM readers will be waking up and thinking for themselves.

If you look at the opaque official Madeleine fund accounts, there is a heading 'restricted funds'.  In real terms (I believe that which applies to a registered charity), restricted funds are donated for a specific defined purpose - not so with the Madeleine fund because the published accounts fall well below the promised transparency.  I think this has been the subject of much discussion in the past but as with so many areas surrounding the case, can only be conjecture, hopefully as in informed opinion.  Here I can only conclude that Kate's reserve is being juggled about between perhaps her personal bank account, the Madeleine fund unrestricted funds and the Madeleine fund restricted funds (if indeed it even exists in terms of hard cash).  The source of the income is also a matter of conjecture as far as I can see, although it has been suggested it's profit from her book sales.

The McCanns haven't yet been victorious in their claim against Mr Amaral, there is still the appeal.  I frankly don't think the majority of the population take much interest in the case any more - if the MSM plug something old or something new I think the general attitude is 'oh no not them again' or some criticism about public money being spent.  Whatever, the MSM are certainly not going to reveal the truth.

The Mirror article highlighted by SammyC in full.

Good to see ‘besties’ Clarence & Tracey at it again!
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Madeleine McCann's parents ready to continue search if police end investigation into her disappearance
           
            19:12, 2 SEPTEMBER 2015
            UPDATED 20:06, 2 SEPTEMBER 2015
                        BY TRACEY KANDOHLA
 
A spokesman said the couple accepted police could not continue to fund an investigation indefinitely and have set aside cash to continue the search themselves
 
The parents of Madeleine McCann are preparing for the police probe into their daughter’s disappearance to be shelved, their spokesman said today.
Kate and Gerry McCann continue to pump thousands of pounds into a special fund for use when the official investigation, codenamed Operation Grange and launched more than four years ago, finally ends.
 
Family spokesperson Clarence Mitchell said today: “They realise it cannot go on forever.”
He added: “Kate and Gerry remain incredibly grateful to the Met Police for their continuing work and effort and are grateful to everyone who continues to make Operation Grange possible.
“The Government and police make the decision about funding, it is not Kate and Gerry’s role.”
 
He told how former GP Kate and heart doctor Gerry, both 37, of Rothley, Leics, had moved money from the publicly-backed Find Maddie Fund into a special account in anticipation of having to finance the hunt for their daughter themselves.
Mr Mitchell said: “In a common sense and practical move, they have kept some money back from the Find Madeleine Fund in case it is needed for an ongoing search.”
A source close to the family said: “Kate and Gerry firmly believe Madeleine could still be alive and when the police investigation ends, they have vowed to continue looking for her.
 
"They don’t know when this will be, there has been so suggestion yet, but they want to be ready and have set aside huge chunks of money for this reason.”
Three-year-old Maddie was snatched during a family holiday in Portugal’s Praia da Luz in May 2007. She would now be aged 12.
As Maddie’s parents brace themselves for being told Operation Grange will end, the family source said: “Kate and Gerry know the investigation will come to an end at some point, especially with police budget cuts but they haven’t been advised when.”
 
A Home Office spokesperson said: “The Home Office remains committed to supporting the search for Madeleine McCann.
"Over the last four years we have given the Metropolitan Police the resources they say they need to investigate her disappearance, and we continue to do so.”
Sources in Portugal today insisted there was no evidence to suggest Operation Grange was going to be shelved in the short or medium term.

The McCanns can't be aged 37 now, they were about that age when Madeleine disappeared.

So he admits they have been siphoning money out of the "Fund" which is theoretically controlled by 6 Directors, into another account, which we can suppose is controlled by just two.
This smells like Fraud, or straight Theft.
Needs more work and research

Surely the Find Madeleine funds are for precisely that, whether it's today, tomorrow, during and/or indeed after police investigations? That goes without saying doesn't it?

So why the need to put monies in a separate, 'special account' for the search to continue post Op Grange? 

Why the need to come out and tell us there have been monies moved to a 'special account'?

Fear of irregularities being uncovered? So put the pink tinged excuse explanation out there first.....

Hi Petermac,
I wonder if DCI Nichola,"I nick erm before they know they'er nicked" has had any insight into the Madeleine fund, that was set up and Leicsertershire Police Force representatives were present, when Mr Goncalo Amaral made reference to the UK having jurisdiction to investigate any Fraudulent acts appertaining to the fund?
Ward of court documentation.
Perhaps any future journalists might ask Kate and Gerry about the use of the word,"Grieving" that they used at the Leveson inquiry, how is it possible to grieve for someone you believe to be alive?

PeterMac wrote:So he admits they have been siphoning money out of the "Fund" which is theoretically controlled by 6 Directors, into another account, which we can suppose is controlled by just two.
This smells like Fraud, or straight Theft.
Needs more work and research

The objectives of the fund are clearly outlined on page 2 of the Directors Report from the annual report & financial statements 31 March 2014 for Madeleine’s Fund:  Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited


“The aims of the fund are to help find Madeleine and bring her abductors to justice.

In the light of the review of the case by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) and subsequent reopening of the investigation to find Madeleine, The Fund has scaled back independent investigative efforts to avoid duplication and to curb unnecessary expenditure. The Directors feel it is important however that The Fund maintains sizable reserves so that the search for Madeleine can be resumed quickly if/when the need arises”

The above is crystal clear, absolutely no need for a separate fund. None whatsoever. HMRC & BIS should investigate this transaction ASAP, it appears to be rogue. The directors & the 2 doctors need to be made to account for it.

BTW The Fund, not the Fund - as if there isn't another fund anywhere else. Typical of those two!

PeterMac wrote:So he admits they have been siphoning money out of the "Fund" which is theoretically controlled by 6 Directors, into another account, which we can suppose is controlled by just two.
This smells like Fraud, or straight Theft.
Needs more work and research

The statement reads:

QUOTE

Family spokesperson Clarence Mitchell said today: “They realise it cannot go on forever. Kate and Gerry...had moved money from the publicly-backed Find Maddie Fund into a special account in anticipation of having to finance the hunt for their daughter themselves. Mr Mitchell said: “In a common sense and practical move, they have kept some money back from the Find Madeleine Fund in case it is needed for an ongoing search.”

UNQUOTE

There are several Directors of this Fund, not least senior Freemason and prominent lawyer Edward Smethurst. Always assuming that this is a properly-run private company, any decision to 'move money to a special account'...
 
* must surely have been discussed at length by the Directors,
* a formal decision made by a meeting of the Board of Directors,
* the decision formally recorded in the company's minute-book
* a formal note made of the specific purpose of this account
* a formal note made of who are the account-holders - is it just Kate & Gerry?
* a formal note made of how much has been transferred into this new account  
* a formal note made of what this money can be spent on
* a formal note of what is to happen to this money if it is not needed for its stated purpose...

...and one assumes that a formal note of all this will appear in the next Find Madeleine Fund accounts?

Tony Bennett wrote:

PeterMac wrote:So he admits they have been siphoning money out of the "Fund" which is theoretically controlled by 6 Directors, into another account, which we can suppose is controlled by just two.
This smells like Fraud, or straight Theft.
Needs more work and research

The statement reads:

QUOTE

Family spokesperson Clarence Mitchell said today: “They realise it cannot go on forever. Kate and Gerry...had moved money from the publicly-backed Find Maddie Fund into a special account in anticipation of having to finance the hunt for their daughter themselves. Mr Mitchell said: “In a common sense and practical move, they have kept some money back from the Find Madeleine Fund in case it is needed for an ongoing search.”

UNQUOTE

There are several Directors of this Fund, not least senior Freemason and prominent lawyer Edward Smethurst. Always assuming that this is a properly-run private company, any decision to 'move money to a special account'...
 
* must surely have been discussed at length by the Directors,
* a formal decision made by a meeting of the Board of Directors,
* the decision formally recorded in the company's minute-book
* a formal note made of the specific purpose of this account
* a formal note made of who are the account-holders - is it just Kate & Gerry?
* a formal note made of how much has been transferred into this new account  
* a formal note made of what this money can be spent on
* a formal note of what is to happen to this money if it is not needed for its stated purpose...

...and one assumes that a formal note of all this will appear in the next Find Madeleine Fund accounts?

Where are the minutes of the board meetings? It may be a private company, but it uses funds donated by the public, unless they now claim that the public funds have been used up, and what they are using now is money they have from suing newspapers etc

Could this "movement of funds" announcement be a case of jumping before they are pushed. Are they getting in with an explanation before they are questioned?

This is all getting too much for me to get my head around.

I'll get my coat!

sallypelt wrote:Could this "movement of funds" announcement be a case of jumping before they are pushed. Are they getting in with an explanation before they are questioned?
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That is certainly my guess.
Mitchell has been told to find a convincing excuse for something Grange is just about to uncover, and has blabbed in such a way that makes it worse.
The Fund was to find Madeleine.
There is no reason why any funds should be siphoned off onto another account to "Find Madeleine"
This stinks.
They may have been caught with their hands in the till.

Just tried to access the official Find Madeleine site.
"Messages of Support" is down !
and one or two other pages are - perhaps - in the process of being revised.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-cops-say-madeleine-mccann-6370080

British cops say Madeleine McCann investigation "still live" despite calls for it to be wound down

20:10, 2 September 2015
Updated 20:23, 2 September 2015

By Gerard Couzens

Sources reveal police are still determined despite the case costing UK taxpayers £11 million

The British investigation into missing Madeleine McCann is still "live" and is not about to be wound down, sources have revealed.

The news comes after ex-Metropolitan Police officer John O'Connor yesterday questioned whether the hunt for the missing child was a good use of resources.

It has been claimed the Scotland Yard operation has already cost the taxpayer £11 million but there have not yet been any arrests.

But well-placed sources in Portugal insisted there was no evidence to suggest Operation Grange was going to be shelved in the short or medium term.

And they said they were expecting to receive a new international letter of request shortly from UK authorities - the second since DCI Nicola Wall took over from previous Operation Grange boss Andy Redwood at the end of last year but the first she will have been involved in preparing.

The regular meetings DCI Redwood held with his Portuguese counterparts in the Algarve city of Faro have been put on hold since the takeover.

Her successor is understood to have asked police in Portugal to put on hold some of the work they were undertaking while she reviewed outstanding requests and the way she wanted to progress in the future.

Responding to grumbles about the cost of Scotland Yard’s probe and fresh claims it should be wound down, the Portuguese source insisted: “Nothing is going to be shelved.

“Co-operation right now between the British and the Portuguese police is at a moment of great synchronisation.”

Portugal’s Attorney General’s Office, which in May confirmed it had so far received five British requests for international cooperation on the Madeleine McCann case including one in January 2015, did not respond to emails today.

But insiders said they were expecting to receive a new request shortly.

The Scotland Yard inquiry is running separately to a Portuguese probe into Madeleine’s May 3 2007 disappearance.

The Portuguese investigation was reopened in May 2014 at the request of the country’s Policia Judiciaria police force - more than five years after their original probe had been shelved.

The reopening of the probe coincided with news a former employee at the Ocean Club holiday resort where Madeleine disappeared had been identified as a suspect.

Recovering heroin addict Euclides Monteiro, a convicted burglar, died in a tractor accident in 2009.

His widow Luisa Rodrigues was interviewed by Portuguese detectives but insisted he was an innocent man and has been fighting to get authorities to confirm they have now ruled him out as a suspect.

Scotland Yard, tasked with investigating Madeleine’s disappearance after Madeleine’s family made a personal plea to David Cameron in 2011, have come to focus on the theory she was killed during a bungled burglary.

John O’Connor, ex-head of the Met Police’s Flying Squad said yesterday as it was revealed the hunt for Madeleine has cost British taxpayers almost £11 million: “You can’t keep chasing shadows.

“If there are no firm leads, and by that I mean no substantial operational things like active surveillance on suspects, then I’d have thought they should be considering winding it down now.”

His comments echoed those made in March by Met Police Federation chairman John Tully.

He said at the time: “We no longer have the resources to conduct specialist inquiries all over the world which have nothing to do with London.

“It is surprising to see an inquiry like the McCann investigation ring-fenced.

“I’ve heard a lot of rumblings of discontent about it from lots of sources.”

A source close to the McCanns was quoted as saying: “Kate and Gerry are eternally grateful to the Metropolitan Police for making Operation Grange possible.

“They are pleased so many officers are still looking for Madeleine.”

In May, Portugal’s Attorney General’s Office revealed: “Since August 2012, the Public Prosecution Service of Portimao has received five British requests for international cooperation in criminal matters, the last of which has been received on January 2015.

“Three of these requests have been already executed and their pieces of execution were returned to the requesting authorities. The execution of two of them is still pending.

The Prosecutor General’s Office does not provide information on the content of the requests presented by the British authorities.”
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SO,

“Co-operation right now between the British and the Portuguese police is at a moment of great synchronisation.”

The Scotland Yard inquiry is running separately (with a totally 'different' LINE OF INQUIRY) to a Portuguese probe into Madeleine’s May 3 2007 disappearance.

SY 'line' of investigation, Madeleine 'killed' by burglator, PJ 'line' of investigation, 'parents and friends, possible involvement' in Madeleine's 'disappearance'

The REGULAR MEETINGS DCI Redwood held with his Portuguese counterparts in the Algarve city of Faro HAVE BEEN PUT ON HOLD since the takeover.(by DCI Wall) (December 2014)
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Great 'synchronisity' there guys!
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And they (PJ) said they were expecting to receive a new international letter of request shortly from UK authorities - the second since DCI Nicola Wall took over from previous Operation Grange boss Andy Redwood at the end of last year but the first she will have been involved in preparing.

Her (HIS, duhhh) successor is understood to have asked police in Portugal to put on hold some of the work they were undertaking while she reviewed outstanding requests and the way she wanted to progress in the future.
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'the way SHE 'wanted' to progress in the future'!

SHE is a run of the mill DCI at the MET!

The PJ ARE the LEAD 'investigators, it's THEIR 'case'!

Methinks, Kate Mc 'mini me', DCI WALL, is getting rather 'too big for her 'heels' telling the PJ to 'put on hold' some of the work they are undertaking!
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"Scotland Yard, have come to focus on the theory she was killed during a bungled burglary."

Killed?, KILLED??

There's a 'law suit' right there G&K, SY, absolutely, 'hampering/harming' the 'search', for a LIVE Madeleine.

Nobody's going to be 'looking/searching' for a 'killed' Madeleine, are they?
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Finally,

Maybe DCI 'i nick 'em even before they know they are nicked' KM 'mini me' Wall's ILOR is in regards to the TEN 'new' suspects she 'found' within weeks of her being made SIO at OG, (that ex DCI Redwood didn't 'find' in his 3 1/2 year 'tenure' as SIO at OG)

There HAS to be a Portuguese, PDL, 'Barry George'................SOMEWHERE!

Dosen't there?

(I think the 50 year old 'schitzo druggie' the young boy and taxi 'driver' arguidoed, on 'request' of ex MET, SIO@OG, DCI Redwood are 'in the clear')

WHERE'S THE LOCAL, PDL, 'NUTTER' WOT DID 'IT'?

A source close to the McCanns was quoted as saying: “Kate and Gerry are eternally grateful to the Metropolitan Police for making Operation Grange possible.

“They are pleased so many officers are still looking for Madeleine.”
?they are mostly looking in holes in the ground for her body but the parents are pleased?

Did anyone ever comment
"Follow the money" ?
Just a thought . . .

Hi Petermac,
I believe Mr Goncalo Amaral informed UK Police, which he refers to in the banned Book"The truth of the lie" as well as your good self, I wonder where DT was though in between all those checks on the children, was he the Abductor?

1) Giving them the benefit of the doubt, they could have moved some money to continue the search, in the event that the funds in the account are going to be frozen by investigators?

2) Or, supposing they are guilty, they could have moved money into an escape fund if all goes pear shaped with Operation Grange and the media in the Uk?

willowthewisp wrote:Hi Petermac,
I believe Mr Goncalo Amaral informed UK Police, which he refers to in the banned Book"The truth of the lie" as well as your good self, I wonder where DT was though in between all those checks on the children, was he the Abductor?

Do you mean DP? He was sat in the tapas the whole time with a baby monitor.